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« on: April 27, 2009, 06:40:19 AM »

Recently I spoke to a committed Christian who appears to believe that the book, The Protocols of the Elders of Zion, is authentic.
Can anybody refer me to an article or book that provides background to this book and evidence that it is a fraud?
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« Reply #1 on: April 27, 2009, 06:10:05 PM »

Boy there is a lot on the net about this book. This is probably one of the best articles:
http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/article.php?lang=en&ModuleId=10007058

It is unfortunate that this rubbish is still believed, it is like the belief that Jews kill Christian babies and drink their blood.  No way was this anti semitic piece of rubbish believable, yet it still stirred up hatred against the Jews.

I was recently given a bk on a piece of writing about Masonary.  This book blamed the Jews taking masonary back to the time of Solomon.
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« Reply #2 on: April 27, 2009, 06:10:59 PM »

My question is how did they require the original so called ownership of these properties?
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« Reply #3 on: April 27, 2009, 10:37:42 PM »

Interesting topic Bingo

I spoke to a Hungarian (at a trade show of all places), the conversation descended into politics and sure enough, the bile against Jews emerged. But the scariest part was that the bile sounded almost reasonable, due in no small part to the Protocols. I challenged him that the protocols were a fraud, and he denied it, saying that cannot be proven and it was still "provocative". When I challenged that such a thing, not even proven to be genuine, should hardly be permitted to cause ambivalence to the mass murder of 6 million people just because it's "provocative", he had less answers for that one. However, you can tell that they really want to say "but the Jews brought it upon themselves".

The problem with the "Protocols" is that it is obscure, therefore people regard it as an obscure problem. Slightly less obscure is a book such as, say, Mein Kampf. It's pretty black and white what that book represents. Less known, however, is that almost every regiment of the Egyptian Army in the 6-day war had copies of Mein Kampf in their possession, as if some kind of military training manual. Disturbing. Hamas and other organisations believe the protocols, but then Hamas believe that trees (except for Jewish trees) and rocks are going to dob in Jews. So, it's all about whether the Protocols fit with your pre-existent ideology.

There are those who claim that the Protocols cannot be proven to be a forgery, and further, claim their legitimacy lies in the notion that Jews have "done what the protocols predicted". These claims represent some of the biggest masterpieces of circular reasoning. Here's an example http://sacredearth.org/CD_Image/Jew_Watch_-_The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion_Folder.htm. Unpleasant stuff, but probably helpful for us to know so we know how to respond.

Another good analysis from the Anti-Defamation League is here: http://www.adl.org/special_reports/protocols/protocols_intro.asp.

The Protocols are useful when someone who hasn't heard of them bangs on about the Jewish Conspiracy etc. You can ultimately prove that their ideas originate from a fraudulent source. Good Luck!


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« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2009, 02:23:59 AM »

That's a really great response, Rubens!

I'm so happy that you and Balshan take so much interest in the Forum.
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« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2009, 02:34:09 AM »


I'm so happy that you and Balshan take so much interest in the Forum.

Thanks but we need more! This is a great "portal" for sharing resources. If you're reading this and not registered on the forum, get onto it!
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« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2009, 06:25:26 PM »

I concur with Rubens.  Let's get this forum up and running.  Sharing items, ideas and to make it more open please feel free to disagree.  We all see things from different angles and by discussion we come closer to the truth.  We will either confirm our ideas and also become much better at articulating our arguments or have a change of mind. Discussion for us to sharpen our minds.
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« Reply #7 on: May 03, 2009, 05:31:57 AM »

Thanks Balshan and Rubens.  There is certainly plenty of info around. 
Reading articles agreeing with the Protocols allows one to see the hatred of some of the authors towards everything Jewish.
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